DUST Search - HMGs still need a buff

HowDidThatTaste wrote:

The Heavy suit is fine the HMG is great in 1 situation the combination of the two makes it laughable.
I read thread after thread saying the HMG is is in a great place. Yes after the months of absolute crap its better.

To say its balanced? To what? Rifles got a huge range buff, and we all know like half the frickin map range.

But HMG's got their actual cone of fire back to what it was always supposed to be, and we are saying oh the HMG is great now?

I can say playing a heavy for an entire pub match is like wearing huge weights around your ankles and wearing such dark glasses you can only see 40-50meters in front of you with a great big old sign that says shoot me here in my balloon head I'm a big target. Great stay in your hallway mole, you are right where you should,be says the rifle players.

I applaud any heavy that can say they dominate, much respect. However i can dominate you with my rifle 98% of the time in your cqc optimal range, if I can't I can run away and drop a hive and stay out of your range, and if you happen to show your Zeppelin head out of the dark hallway and try to run to another location I can pick you off from way far away and giggle as you turn around like a dog that has poo stuck on its tail, looking around in hopes that you could actually fire back at me.

Heavy HMG can not dictate their optimal fight zone every other suit can dicatate how they own you, or just plain out wait you.

Is the HmG powerful in CQC yes. Is it fun to play against ranged rifles on most of the maps? You decide I prefer smashing heavies in cqc being able to run away if need be, able to drop a hive to repairs/reload and just plain have a smaller hit box.

As a die hard heavy/HMG player it is completely out classed in every way since aim assist and TTK were introduced.


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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 281	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:49:00 - [1] - Quote Nitrobeacon wrote: Considering how powerful other guns are, I think it needs some buffing. It's a heavy weapon, packing lots of mechanisms. It needs extreme dps and the necessary fear factor. I'd say buffing along the lines of damage and increasing the range a bit. For damage I'd say increase the standard variant to 30 damage per shot The range should be similar to the combat rifle. I was talking to a few people who think more along the same lines but they didn't want a range increase but a damage increase is needed and me myself , think along the same lines where the prototype has at least 30 damage and the advance has 28 with the basic at 26 . If you can get smoked by a boundless combat rifle , like I did and yes it is a prototype but having an HMG and being a heavy , while at close range there should be NO other gun that should dominate the HMG in CQC and right now , granted it did and is better but NO one can say that right now . The answer is not " get some skills " either . Why must you people continue to insult those who give an analysis , I mean we are testers and this is his finding . Everyone does not have the same results but that's no reason to discredit this person and also act disrespectful . If he was talking about cloaking or hoverboards or drones , all of you would be right on board with whatever he had to say . We know that you have CCP's back but they are not perfect by a long shot and a lot of the weapons need work ( All the swarms have the same damage no matter if it's basic , advance or prototype , the RR , CR and the SR all need work done to them . The only thing that was remotely done right was the range nerf to the AR . ) so this should not be a surprise . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 281	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:05:00 - [2] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: The Heavy suit is fine the HMG is great in 1 situation the combination of the two makes it laughable. I read thread after thread saying the HMG is is in a great place. Yes after the months of absolute crap its better. To say its balanced? To what? Rifles got a huge range buff, and we all know like half the frickin map range. But HMG's got their actual cone of fire back to what it was always supposed to be, and we are saying oh the HMG is great now? I can say playing a heavy for an entire pub match is like wearing huge weights around your ankles and wearing such dark glasses you can only see 40-50meters in front of you with a great big old sign that says shoot me here in my balloon head I'm a big target. Great stay in your hallway mole, you are right where you should,be says the rifle players. I applaud any heavy that can say they dominate, much respect. However i can dominate you with my rifle 98% of the time in your cqc optimal range, if I can't I can run away and drop a hive and stay out of your range, and if you happen to show your Zeppelin head out of the dark hallway and try to run to another location I can pick you off from way far away and giggle as you turn around like a dog that has poo stuck on its tail, looking around in hopes that you could actually fire back at me. Heavy HMG can not dictate their optimal fight zone every other suit can dicatate how they own you, or just plain out wait you. Is the HmG powerful in CQC yes. Is it fun to play against ranged rifles on most of the maps? You decide I prefer smashing heavies in cqc being able to run away if need be, able to drop a hive to repairs/reload and just plain have a smaller hit box. As a die hard heavy/HMG player it is completely out classed in every way since aim assist and TTK were introduced. Agreed but these people just don't understand . They will give you every excuse under the sun like drive a LAV and don't walk or add kin cats or anything but admit that there is a problem . I am specking into HMG's now because when the racial suits come out , when ever that will be , I will be a Heavy along with my other roles so I'm trying to get some practice right now but to say that everything is fine is not true . The suits are imbalanced not just the heavy , shield extenders now have a penalty which is wrong , swarm launchers are now a skill point sink because it doesn't matter if it's basic or prototype they all have the same damage and a screwed up range nerf . Go ahead people keep up the good work waiting and insulting those who give needed feedback . You might just get the game that YOU want because it will be all yours while everyone else would have moved on to greener pastures . Trust me , someone will make a game that will unseat Dust 514 if the right changes are not made , they are working on that right now and anyone with ANY type of business since would feed off of the disgruntled masses that have and do play this game . It might be sooner than even I think . Keep up the good work those who like to insult because like now that is getting nothing done but maybe that's just what most of you like . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 281	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:13:00 - [3] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Its allready the best CQC weapon Umm that would be the shotgun . It can floor a heavy in three shots . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!